The Conversation Hat Podcast – Se2ep16, John Renney

This week Liam and Ben are joined by filmmaker John Renney to discuss the ironic tortures that wait for us in hell; the skills we'd like to develop; and to play Getting To Know You.

This episode features the musical creation entitled Squishy Podcast. Our $5 patrons are able to download the tune from Patreon.



Hell In Colour. There is no information about this film. So, er.... bye then?

The concept of being punished in the afterlife isn't a new one, many stories and shows have built on the idea of punishments being ironic or symbolic in nature: Homer has to eat all the donuts; Ted (of Bill & fame) is chased by the Easter Bunny; Tantalus is taunted with grapes. In this episode the team have to devise their own ironic or symbolic tortures. You can read some much better ideas over on


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The Conversation Hat is hosted by Ben Pierson and Liam Taylor, and edited by Laura Elmer.

Artwork by Lauren Garnett.

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Music by Liam Taylor.